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  • 11-08-2007 09:28 AM

    6.5L turbo diesel chevy

    I made the mistake of purchasing a 6.5 as my first diesel, this truck has more issues than playboy. I am on my third PMD, had to replace the lift pump, the bateries, cables, and now the starter is acting sluggish. Does anyone have advice on how to keep this thing on the road?
  • 11-09-2007 11:34 AM In reply to

    • natescape
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    Re: 6.5L turbo diesel chevy

    Classic line on the Playboy thing. Wink

    Sounds like you got yourself a lemon. Get rid of it, one way or another, would be my advice. 

  • 11-09-2007 09:59 PM In reply to

    Re: 6.5L turbo diesel chevy

    I own a '93 Chevy 6.5TD myself, which happens to be my first diesel as well.  Additionally, I am fairly familiar with some of the other brands of diesels and their good and bad points.  My dad has a '97 Dodge with a Cummins in it.  The GM 6.5L trucks are generally more affordable to purchase than some of the other brands of diesel trucks.  You can put a lot of miles on them if you know how to take care of them and what to look for.  They're still putting 6.5L's in the military HMMV's so that tells you something.  There are some things to keep in mind with this engine, however.

     '93 and prior versions do not have the PMD system and use a mechanical fuel injection system instead.  The '94 and later models of the 6.5L are known to have problems with the PMD for the injection system.  The electronics just aren't robust enough to take the high heat location and unability to dissipate the heat where the PMD is mounted from the factory.  If you want to keep the truck, I'd get a PMD isolator kit from somebody like Heath Diesel and that should eliminate your problems.

    http://www.heathdiesel.com/T/Chevy-GM/Chevy-9495/PMD-Isolators/

    The lift pump is a normal maintenance item with any vehicle that has one and they're easy to replace with the 6.5L ( at least on my '93).  The lift pump on the 6.5L is relatively cheap compared to others.  I got a new one from the GM dealer for around $150 and you can find some off brands cheaper.  Some of the Dodge in-tank lift pumps will cost you $600-$700 to replace from what I've read. 

    If you've replaced the lift pump, I'd highly recommend replacing the oil pressure switch that powers the lift pump when the engine is running.  It's only about $30 from GM and will make sure your lift pump is powered, has the proper voltage, and is working to keep the expensive high pressure injection pump fueled up and properly lubricated with fuel.  You can get a crow's foot oil pressure switch wrench from Snap-on for around $30 to replace it if you want to do it yourself ( it's in a tight spot under the intake manifold ).  

    If the high pressure injection pump gets starved for fuel, you'll start causing excessive wear and start to damage the injection pump and the truck may not run properly.  A faulty oil pressure switch that's been missed could be the reason you've replaced so many PMD's if the PMD tends to get blamed when there's a fuel related performance problem.  For that matter if there's generally low oil pressure, that may not be actuating the oil pressure switch properly.  I installed a fuel pressure gauge in mine to to monitor lift pump pressure and make sure it's working properly.

    Batteries and cables go bad with any vehicle, and so do starters, so I wouldn't hold that against the 6.5L unless it's got low miles on it.  You may have the starter solenoid contacts going bad, causing high resistance and low voltage to your starter.  Might be as simple as replacing the starter solenoid contacts or just getting a re-built starter depending on what's more cost effective.

    If you want to read up on the GM diesels, I'd highly recommend reviewing "The Diesel Page"  It's the best resource I've found for the 6.5L diesel. 

    http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/  

    I've bought both their books that have collections of articles on the 6.5L and they're very informative.  They will probably more than pay for themselves, especially if you do any of your own repairs. 

    So, other than the PMD problem, I wouldn't be too critical of the 6.5L.  If you have further questions that I can help with, don't hesitate to post here.

    ( I am not affiliated with any of the sources listed here in any way. )

  • 11-10-2007 11:45 AM In reply to

    Re: 6.5L turbo diesel chevy

    Thanks man some great tips, that heath kit looks great. do you have any links to the oil and fuels pressure switches/ controllers you spoke of?
    Cheers
  • 11-11-2007 08:59 PM In reply to

    Re: 6.5L turbo diesel chevy

    Heath Diesel actually sells the oil pressure switch too.  Here's a link to it.  It's listed under the lift pump section for the year of your truck.  I'm sure your local GM dealer would be happy to help you out as well.  I think Heath may actually be selling a GM unit under their part number listed on the web site.  The current replacement has heavier duty contacts than the original design that I had on my truck.

    http://www.heathdiesel.com/P/HDP1484/

    I'm not sure if this link will work right for you, but here's the link from the wrench I used to replace the oil pressure switch.  Stock number S6152 from Snap-on.  If you search for "oil pressure switch wrench" on their site, and go to the "oil pressure" link, it will show up in the list.  It's listed as a "wrench, crowfoot, oil pressure sender switch"  It's well worth the $30.

    http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=11635&group_ID=1550&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

    The fuel pressure gauge I have is mouted in the engine compartment.  I got that one because it was the cheapest liquid filled gauge I could find.  A Holley 26-504.  I had to do a little plumbing and make a bracket to get it mounted.  If you do a search on their web site you'll find it.  They have a 26-503 fuel pressure gauge that could be mounted in the cab.  It's about the cheapest I've found for an in-cab mount.  An in-cab gauge would be nice to keep a closer eye on things, but you have to run some wiring.  I check my under hood gauge fairly frequently. 

     Hopefully this helps.

  • 06-23-2008 12:12 PM In reply to

    Re: 6.5L turbo diesel chevy

    buy a new chip from ssdiesel supply and buy a cooler and a heat sync  for it mine had the same prob  about 1 year ago but i did that and it fixed it right up

  • 07-01-2008 09:46 PM In reply to

    Re: 6.5L turbo diesel chevy

    Smile  at your truck having more issues than playboy.

     Yes on robcam0076's tip. I was having the same problems with mine and it worked out great. I hoped it worked as well with Mississippi.

     

     

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