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  • 02-09-2008 10:06 PM

    • natescape
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    Biofuels deemed a greenhouse threat

    Alright, folks, let's tear this apart and see if there's any meat on its bones. IMO, the biggest problem with it is that their primary idea is clear-cutting forest/jungle for biofuels is bad. Well, no duh! Article here.

    Biofuels Deemed a Greenhouse Threat 

    Published: February 8, 2008
     
    Almost all biofuels used today cause more greenhouse gas emissions than conventional fuels if the full emissions costs of producing these “green” fuels are taken into account, two studies being published Thursday have concluded.
     
     

    The benefits of biofuels have come under increasing attack in recent months, as scientists took a closer look at the global environmental cost of their production. These latest studies, published in the prestigious journal Science, are likely to add to the controversy.

    These studies for the first time take a detailed, comprehensive look at the emissions effects of the huge amount of natural land that is being converted to cropland globally to support biofuels development.

    The destruction of natural ecosystems — whether rain forest in the tropics or grasslands in South America — not only releases greenhouse gases into the atmosphere when they are burned and plowed, but also deprives the planet of natural sponges to absorb carbon emissions. Cropland also absorbs far less carbon than the rain forests or even scrubland that it replaces.

    Together the two studies offer sweeping conclusions: It does not matter if it is rain forest or scrubland that is cleared, the greenhouse gas contribution is significant. More important, they discovered that, taken globally, the production of almost all biofuels resulted, directly or indirectly, intentionally or not, in new lands being cleared, either for food or fuel.

    “When you take this into account, most of the biofuel that people are using or planning to use would probably increase greenhouse gasses substantially,” said Timothy Searchinger, lead author of one of the studies and a researcher in environment and economics at Princeton University. “Previously there’s been an accounting error: land use change has been left out of prior analysis.”

    These plant-based fuels were originally billed as better than fossil fuels because the carbon released when they were burned was balanced by the carbon absorbed when the plants grew. But even that equation proved overly simplistic because the process of turning plants into fuels causes its own emissions — for refining and transport, for example.

    The clearance of grassland releases 93 times the amount of greenhouse gas that would be saved by the fuel made annually on that land, said Joseph Fargione, lead author of the second paper, and a scientist at the Nature Conservancy. “So for the next 93 years you’re making climate change worse, just at the time when we need to be bringing down carbon emissions.”

    The Intergovernment Panel on Climate Change has said that the world has to reverse the increase of greenhouse gas emissions by 2020 to avert disastrous environment consequences.

    In the wake of the new studies, a group of 10 of the United States’s most eminent ecologists and environmental biologists today sent a letter to President Bush and the speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, urging a reform of biofuels policies. “We write to call your attention to recent research indicating that many anticipated biofuels will actually exacerbate global warming,” the letter said.

    The European Union and a number of European countries have recently tried to address the land use issue with proposals stipulating that imported biofuels cannot come from land that was previously rain forest.

    But even with such restrictions in place, Dr. Searchinger’s study shows, the purchase of biofuels in Europe and the United States leads indirectly to the destruction of natural habitats far afield.

    For instance, if vegetable oil prices go up globally, as they have because of increased demand for biofuel crops, more new land is inevitably cleared as farmers in developing countries try to get in on the profits. So crops from old plantations go to Europe for biofuels, while new fields are cleared to feed people at home.

    Likewise, Dr. Fargione said that the dedication of so much cropland in the United States to growing corn for bioethanol had caused indirect land use changes far away. Previously, Midwestern farmers had alternated corn with soy in their fields, one year to the next. Now many grow only corn, meaning that soy has to be grown elsewhere.

    Increasingly, that elsewhere, Dr. Fargione said, is Brazil, on land that was previously forest or savanna. “Brazilian farmers are planting more of the world’s soybeans — and they’re deforesting the Amazon to do it,” he said.

    International environmental groups, including the United Nations, responded cautiously to the studies, saying that biofuels could still be useful. “We don’t want a total public backlash that would prevent us from getting the potential benefits,” said Nicholas Nuttall, spokesman for the United Nations Environment Program, who said the United Nations had recently created a new panel to study the evidence.

    “There was an unfortunate effort to dress up biofuels as the silver bullet of climate change,” he said. “We fully believe that if biofuels are to be part of the solution rather than part of the problem, there urgently needs to be better sustainability criterion.”

    The European Union has set a target that countries use 5.75 percent biofuel for transport by the end of 2008. Proposals in the United States energy package would require that 15 percent of all transport fuels be made from biofuel by 2022. To reach these goals, biofuels production is heavily subsidized at many levels on both continents, supporting a burgeoning global industry.

    Syngenta, the Swiss agricultural giant, announced Thursday that its annual profits had risen 75 percent in the last year, in part because of rising demand for biofuels.

    Industry groups, like the Renewable Fuels Association, immediately attacked the new studies as “simplistic,” failing “to put the issue into context.”

    “While it is important to analyze the climate change consequences of differing energy strategies, we must all remember where we are today, how world demand for liquid fuels is growing, and what the realistic alternatives are to meet those growing demands,” said Bob Dineen, the group’s director, in a statement following the Science reports’ release.

    “Biofuels like ethanol are the only tool readily available that can begin to address the challenges of energy security and environmental protection,” he said.

    The European Biodiesel Board says that biodiesel reduces greenhouse gasses by 50 to 95 percent compared to conventional fuel, and has other advantages as well, like providing new income for farmers and energy security for Europe in the face of rising global oil prices and shrinking supply.

    But the papers published Thursday suggested that, if land use is taken into account, biofuels may not provide all the benefits once anticipated.

    Dr. Searchinger said the only possible exception he could see for now was sugar cane grown in Brazil, which take relatively little energy to grow and is readily refined into fuel. He added that governments should quickly turn their attention to developing biofuels that did not require cropping, such as those from agricultural waste products.

    “This land use problem is not just a secondary effect — it was often just a footnote in prior papers,”. “It is major. The comparison with fossil fuels is going to be adverse for virtually all biofuels on cropland.”

     

  • 02-10-2008 12:56 AM In reply to

    Re: Biofuels deemed a greenhouse threat

     

    I was looking over some of the grants available to US farmers for the most part. They seem to encourage increasing production of (without being specific) soy beans and corn for bio fuel production. Seems to me like it would make more sense to grant incentives  for research and "refining" food crop byproduct .As in what is left over from the harvest. Even the runoff from farms.

     I've said it before and I'll probably keep saying it the US bio energy program looks like a bonanza of farm subsidies. I'm guessing the people that will be processing these energy crops will probably be big oil and maybe the big chemical. I'm sure we will be providing subsidies for them too.

    R&D wise I really wish the EU and the US would take a leadership role towards using what is for the most part thrown away as opposed to increasing the cost of food.

  • 02-10-2008 10:23 AM In reply to

    Re: Biofuels deemed a greenhouse threat

     >Cropland also absorbs far less carbon than the rain forests or even scrubland that it replaces.

    One crop of corn absorbs 22 tons of CO2 per hectare & releases 1.3 tons - per crop. Net of 20.7 absorbed.

    See:

    http://www.ontariocorn.org/envt/envclim.html


    A rainforest is max "3 to 6 tons per hectare each year."

    Or "perhaps more like 1 to 1.5 tons per hectare per year”.

    Or "the Amazon is either in near equilibrium with respect to carbon exchange—giving off about as much as it takes in—or is possibly even a source of atmospheric carbon dioxide."

    See:

     http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Study/LBA_Escape/

    Converting rain forest to corn production would remove 34 to 40+ tons more CO2 per hectare - 2 crops per year.

    Looks like there is a hidden agenda here & they are claiming to use science to fool the ignorant.

    Martin 

  • 02-10-2008 11:22 AM In reply to

    Re: Biofuels deemed a greenhouse threat

     I read that there is 16.3 billion tons of CO2 per year produced than is absorbed.

     http://www.nuclearoil.com/

    There is 1.7 billion hectares of tropical rain forest.

    http://www.rainforestinfo.org.au/background/rainfwld.htm

    Quick math says that converting 400 million hectares of rain forest to corn(or other crops) would make the world carbon neutral. Or maybe reverse it. 

    Would still leave 1.2 billion hectares of wild land.

    Maybe what the world needs now is more chainsaws. 

    Martin 

  • 02-11-2008 10:22 PM In reply to

    • Slippery
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    Re: Biofuels deemed a greenhouse threat

    But then the carpenters would be moaning that they could not afford to by tortillas because the bottom would fall out of the cut timber market.

    Slippery Small steps taken one at a time.
  • 02-12-2008 11:17 AM In reply to

    • Doctor
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    Re: Biofuels deemed a greenhouse threat

    What is disturbing about these studies, and the analysis of them (especially in the press) is the total lack of sobriety about the issue, and what these studies actually say.

    These studies basically say that if we plant a bunch of biofuels crops in pristine ecosystems, there will be a major climate hit. That is not a surprise and that is notthe smart ways to produce biofuels. No argument there.

    Yet the press has gone hog wild and are writing off all biofuels. Why? Well, partly because the press are easily fooled and over worked. But it's also because some of the authors of the report are making irresponsible statements. If Tim Searchinger thinks his analysis writes off CURRENT biofuels, he is mistaken. Perhaps some you can help me with a few things ...

    1) Searchinger puts 30 bgy of corn ethanol into his model. We are currently at 8 bgy, and the new mandate calls for only 15 bgy. Why is no one talking about this?

    2) Searchinger (and many other LCA researchers) seem to have no qualms about seeking out 6 degrees of separation for biofuels (i.e. going way upstream to indirect impacts) and not doing the same for oil. Imagine if you came to a fork in a river, and you wanted to know which fork was putting more water in the river. So you hiked up the biofuels fork 6 miles, came back, and then hiked up the petroleum fork 1 mile, and came back. Someone says, "which fork puts more water in the river." You say, "biofuels fork." Guy says, "how do you know?" You say, "cuz I saw more water in the biofuels fork." Of course you did, you went farther upstream for biofuels than oil. In my opinion, it is simply absurd to strip search biofuels and let oil through using the old methodology.

    Maybe Searchinger's intentions are in the right place. But in my opinion, he is letting everyone misunderstand what his analysis actually says because that's his agenda -- he is anti-biofuels as is Ira Flatow of NPR.

    The problem with not looking at the oil baseline is more general than what was mentioned. A comparison of biofuels with indirect impacts to an oil baseline without them has very limited value. We could list the indirect impacts of oil all day long, but know this, Searchinger did not apply ANY land use changes to the oil side (whether they are big or small).

    You have The Nature Conservancy and other supposedly green groups saying "these fuels are worse than oil on GHG" and they don't even bother to make it an apples to apples comparison? There is an entire industry dedicated to harvesting lumber in conjunction with oil drilling, and that's just one example. There is no infrastructural element to GREET. How much oil do we burn every year on non-offensive resource protection of Straits, pipelines, etc.? The list is endless.


     

    "I don't have all the answers. I don't need all the answers right now. All I have to do is solve the problems one at a time. More importantly, I won't be doing it by myself."-- Sean O'Hanlon

  • 02-12-2008 04:34 PM In reply to

    • natescape
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    Re: Biofuels deemed a greenhouse threat

    Absolutely. The headline makes it seem like biofuels are bad for the environment, when what it really says is that clear-cutting forests and peat to plant biofuel crops is bad. Not exactly a surprise. 

  • 02-13-2008 09:56 AM In reply to

    • bioDon
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    Re: Biofuels deemed a greenhouse threat

    Elisabeth Rosenthal's leading statement is false.

    More than 80% of US biodiesel production came from doemstic soybean oil.  The rest was divided among other feedstocks such as recycled cooking oil, renderend animal fats, and other vegetable oils such as cotton seed and canola.  Less soybean acreage was planted last year, and US Census data reports more than 400 million gallons of soybean oil still sitting in inventory. The US is the world's largest exporter of soybean oil. USDA reports that crop acreage has not increased in the US since 1959.

    You can gather from these facts that land use is not changing for the production of biodiesel.  The USDA/DOE life cycle study for soy-based biodiesel shows a 78% carbon dioxide reduction.  This takes into account the planting and harvesting of the soybeans, producign the fuel and deliverin git to the pump.  A 2007 update to the study found that for every unit of energy it takes to make biodiesel, 3.5 units of energy are gained.

    Research is underway to further reduce the environmental impact of feedstock production including more use of recycled agricultural waste.  

    The threat of land use change in other countries is an important concern.  Bashing our best alternatives to combat the energy and global warming crisises gets us no closer to protecting the rainforests. 

     

  • 02-13-2008 12:40 PM In reply to

    Re: Biofuels deemed a greenhouse threat

    To me the take home message is that ALL biofuel, including biodiesel could be either positive or negative, depending on the details of what they are made from and how it is grown.  As usual, the devil is in the details.

     The use of palm oil is particulary problematic from what I see.  I lived in Indonesia and know something about the political/economic modle there.  I am certain that clearcutting is happening as we write.  The growth in biodiesel only adds to the increased pressure on the palm oil maket that is already there from population growth.

     It is also important to educate consumers by getting the details of this info out, so people who purchase BD can use their purchasing power to influence vendors choices to provide more sustainable BD rather than just the cheapest. 

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