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  • 02-20-2008 03:33 PM

    Need guaranteed community sized biodiesel supply.

    The present projections are that heating oil and diesel fuel prices will be ~$5 US per gal retail next heating season in 2009.  Biodiesel is being considered as an alternative.

    I am looking for suppliers who are willing to sign legal guarantees of supply at or below those retail prices for 100K+ gal per month quantities starting in Fall 2009.  Since the quantities in question are so large, it is expected that there will be appropriate price breaks.  But no one is going to gouge you.

    This is a no BS, you will be talking to legal representatives of various communities and state agencies, kind of deal.

    Anyone out there think they are up to the job? 

  • 02-24-2008 01:37 AM In reply to

    • Bioracer
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    Re: Need guaranteed community sized biodiesel supply.

     What part of the country?

  • 03-02-2008 01:19 AM In reply to

    Re: Need guaranteed community sized biodiesel supply.

    Bioracer:

     What part of the country?

    Sorry for delay in getting back.

    New England.  Specifically NH, MA, and VT.

     

  • 03-02-2008 01:53 AM In reply to

    Re: Need guaranteed community sized biodiesel supply.

     On a side note you or your supplier(s) may want to look into futures trading as a hedge (commodities). With out getting too much into the subject you pretty much lock in your costs etc.

    I have not been involved in that business for years. It only looks sophistiated it's really not. With the numbers you are talking about I would consult the dept. of energy for advice. They do work for you and if they don't get that your congress person can explain that to them. 

  • 03-03-2008 12:56 AM In reply to

    Re: Need guaranteed community sized biodiesel supply.

    Monday:

     On a side note you or your supplier(s) may want to look into futures trading as a hedge (commodities). With out getting too much into the subject you pretty much lock in your costs etc.

    I have not been involved in that business for years. It only looks sophistiated it's really not. With the numbers you are talking about I would consult the dept. of energy for advice. They do work for you and if they don't get that your congress person can explain that to them. 

    Yeah, I'm trying to structure things so we can "lock in" prices no higher than $4-$5/gal retail w/o any involved getting scrod.  After all, I want everyone involved in this to do well.  If my suspicions are correct, we are going to need robust working producer consumer biodiesel relationships sooner rather than later.

    The State and Town officials looking into these deals will be looking into the hedge sort of stuff as well.  Cool

    However, thanks for putting this sort of thing into the public eye on BDN.  I had not thought of saying anything about it.

    Note to readers.  "Hedge" does not mean "guarantee".  Hedges can reduce risk.  Often a great deal.  But they do not =remove= risk.

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