Oil hits $109/barrel and its only March

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Rich Posted: 03-11-2008 11:05 AM

While watching the gasoline, ethanol, diesel and biodiesel price at the pump only going up, and seeing our country working for more than a  few years now to increase production of oil and alternatives ... I wonder just how high oil will go this summer? Will we see $4.00 oil or can something be done?

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How high will national 'average' unleaded regular gasoline prices get this summer?

 

  • Over $4.00 (87.5%)
  • Over $3.70 but not over $4.00 (12.5%)
  • Over $3.40 but not over $3.70 (0%)
  • Over $3.00 but not over $3.40 (0%)
  • It will be under $3.00 this summer (0%)
You voted for 'Over $4.00'.
  • Total Votes: 8
  • Voting Ended: 7/9/2008
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Hi Rich,

People that I have not heard from for years are calling me asking where to get methanol and such !

It's a boom to homebrew !  :)

Thanks, Steve

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stephend:

Hi Rich,

People that I have not heard from for years are calling me asking where to get methanol and such !

It's a boom to homebrew !  :)

Thanks, Steve

 

The problem is that the supply of WVO is limited and as the demand goes up, commercial collectors will get our supply.

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Hi cjheap,

They tried ! ! !      They pick up at the place next to where I do !

I offer faster, cleaner service is how I kept my account. 

It is not hard to provide better service than the big guys !

Thanks, Steve

 

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 Even if my sources for WVO dry out, it would take a year for my stock to dwindle.  I may have to give some away as it is, my garage is so full.

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 Even if my sources for WVO dry out, it would take a year for my stock to dwindle.  I may have to give some away as it is, my garage is so full.

You are lucky. That is not the case in Houston.  I have a couple of sources that I am constantly battling oil thieves at. The Commercial guys will come buy and pick up my oil before I can get there.

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The licensing angle for 'waste oil' pickup is being looked at in our county. Many restaurant owners don't want the hassle of dealing with a small home oil collector that doesn't offer paperwork for peace of mind. Big boys are using that as a tool to lock up accounts. 

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It makes me think twice (or, about a thousandth time, as I'm really conflicted) about selling my car to get a family hauler.  

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It makes me think twice (or, about a thousandth time, as I'm really conflicted) about selling my car to get a family hauler.  

As many miles as I drive .. I'm kicking myself for selling the TDI that I use to drive. (we still have one) In the back of my mind I've thought about a new Jetta or Jetta Sportwagen, but know they are going to sell at a premium and will surely have at a few  first year bugs. (its a Volkwagen)
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Oh, if I still drove a lot, it'd not be for sale. But I have a 15-mile daily commute now. 

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Rich and Nate what you are saying now says it all. The Market will decide, it is never wrong, never forgets, never forgives, and is self correcting.

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dereckbc:
Rich and Nate what you are saying now says it all. The Market will decide, it is never wrong, never forgets, never forgives, and is self correcting. 
 But humans and life are not borg. We have feeling, people lie, pollution lingers, in-equality persists, ecology doesnt live on the same time scale.

Or... here is a perfect example of how the market fails, the Fox river, my local river is a PCP horror story. It cannot be cleaned up for any $ number and who is to pay for it anyhow? The market has completely failed in this case and now there is no way to fix it.

Ayn was only partially right. The market has alot of benefits but just as any formula, it needs the hand of constraint, to know when to use it and to know when that formula is useless.

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natescape replied on 03-11-2008 07:03 PM

Rich, wanna buy my wagon?? Wink It's pretty sweet.

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Rich, wanna buy my wagon?? Wink It's pretty sweet.

I'm reminding myself that one of the reasons I sold my Jetta was because of what CJHeap was saying ... "its not comfortable on a long drive." (at least for me)

I experienced a nerve problem with my leg the last couple of years I owned it and I tried everything I could think of to correct it.  I tried special foam wedges and even taxi cab beads. Nothing improved the nerve situation during the 4 hour stretches a couple times a week in the car(my wife says its age).  As soon as I would switch back to the minivan (more upright seating) or the Honda Pilot (again more upright seating) the problem went away. I'm still not sure if it was the seat position  entirely, because I have driven other sedans and not had the problem. I'm curious if the Passat or upsized A5 Jetta would improve my drive ... or if psychologically I'm trying to convince myself I need a Mercedes Benz!
Wink 

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froggy:

dereckbc:
Rich and Nate what you are saying now says it all. The Market will decide, it is never wrong, never forgets, never forgives, and is self correcting. 
 But humans and life are not borg. We have feeling, people lie, pollution lingers, in-equality persists, ecology doesnt live on the same time scale.

Or... here is a perfect example of how the market fails, the Fox river, my local river is a PCP horror story. It cannot be cleaned up for any $ number and who is to pay for it anyhow? The market has completely failed in this case and now there is no way to fix it.

Ayn was only partially right. The market has alot of benefits but just as any formula, it needs the hand of constraint, to know when to use it and to know when that formula is useless.

 

Do you mean PCB's  ?   This is due to the industrial revoultion dating back to the 1800's correct. Mainly paper mills that were not regulated before 1972 when Nixon formed the EPA .

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Rich I have two cars, Honda Accord for general transportation, and a Lexus ES for biz. Both are great rides with great fuel economy. Try a Lexus for comfort, sweet.. The wife is the show off in her Beamer, another sweet ride but costly like a MB.

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Rich replied on 03-11-2008 11:47 PM

dereckbc:

Rich I have two cars, Honda Accord for general transportation, and a Lexus ES for biz. Both are great rides with great fuel economy. Try a Lexus for comfort, sweet.. The wife is the show off in her Beamer, another sweet ride but costly like a MB.

I'm holding out for a diesel ... and Mercedes make a couple that I kind like ... except for the price. Stick out tongue
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I am holding for the Accord diesel to replace my current one. BMW has a diesel now in the USA?

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dereckbc:

BMW has a diesel now in the USA?

_Consumer Reports_  2008 Car Evaluation issue.  On news stands now.

1st 2008 diesel BMW mentioned is the BMW 335d on p14.

3.0L 265hp  0-62mph in 6.2 secs.  23mpg city  33mpg hwy.

2nd is X5 SUV.  No stats given.

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dereckbc:

The Market will decide, it is never wrong...

Relying on the "market" to make decissions for our well being is how we got into this mess. Now if the market had full and true cost accounting it might be a different story. 

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