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Latest post 05-08-2008 02:41 AM by Thitherintinton. 8 replies.
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  • 04-29-2008 05:18 PM

    Titration question

    Will rubbing alcohol ( 70% isopropyl alcohol) work for titrating

    thanks

    jeff

  • 04-29-2008 09:42 PM In reply to

    • Txngent
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    Re: Titration question

    I would try getting more pure.... 90% or more.

    Randy My Business My Space
  • 04-29-2008 11:12 PM In reply to

    • raften
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    Re: Titration question

    Save yourself a headache and use 91%.

    Dodge 3500 CTD, '01 running B100
  • 04-30-2008 12:49 AM In reply to

    Re: Titration question

    I just tried titrating with the 70% and came up with 8 ml this is confusing me. I tried making some the other day w/o titrating and used 1 1/2 tsp (7-8 gr) lye and made a gloppy mess someone said i used too much lye wouldnt this titration mean use 11.5 grams lye how can that be if 7.5 was too much

     

    I'll be looking for the better isopropyl tomorrow any suggestions as to where to look

     

    thanks

    jeff

  • 05-01-2008 02:10 PM In reply to

    Re: Titration question

    If you are titrating over 6 with NAOH you run the risk of glop.

    Try using KOH. Be sure to make your titration solution with KOH too. It will  be higher, like maybe 9.

    Use 8g/l as a base and add titration. You may end up with lots of soap, but it will be liquid.

    Try washing your glop with very warm water. Don't agitate it just let it settle.

     

    Bob

    The Biofuel Clinic LLC. bob@biofuelclinic.com Authorized BioPro Dealer http://www.biofuelclinic.com/
  • 05-01-2008 05:07 PM In reply to

    Re: Titration question

    would it do any good to mix new oil with the wvo. i havent seen the koh had to go all over town to find the naoh and would caustic soda be one of these 2

    thanks

    jeff 

  • 05-02-2008 11:56 AM In reply to

    Re: Titration question

    Jeff,

    Yes, blending your WVO with better oil or new oil will average your titration.

    Another method of lowering titration is to mix your bad WVO with glycerin from a previous batch. About 20-35% depending on how bad it is.

    Re-titrate and go for it!

    Bob

    The Biofuel Clinic LLC. bob@biofuelclinic.com Authorized BioPro Dealer http://www.biofuelclinic.com/
  • 05-02-2008 11:57 AM In reply to

    Re: Titration question

    Caustic soda is NAOH

    Caustic Potash is KOH

    The Biofuel Clinic LLC. bob@biofuelclinic.com Authorized BioPro Dealer http://www.biofuelclinic.com/
  • 05-08-2008 02:41 AM In reply to

    Re: Titration question

    Jeff;

     I use 70% and 90% Isopropyl intercahngably and don't see any difference in the titration results.  This is not where you are running into problems.

    I think that if I were you, I would be more suspect of my method of doing the titration and my processing of the oil.  You talk about using a teaspoon to measure your NaOH.  If you do not have a proper scale to measure small amounts of NaOH to process your test batch, how did you acurately measure the tiny amount of NaOH needed when you made your titration solution?  Probably your solution is not acurate.  And how are you measuring how much solution you are adding to your test sample to get the titration number?  Do you have a burette, accuratly graduated syringe, or other way of acurately measuring tiny amounts of the solution.  If not, this will throw off your titration number as well.  What amount of NaOH are you using as a base amount?  (I use 6 grams/liter and get good results.)  Once you have your titration number, how are you acurately measuring the NaOH into the methanol?  If you are using a teaspoon, this is introducing another inacuracy.  You need a good scale capable of measuring small amounts.  How are you measuring your methanol and WVO?  Do you have some kind of graduated container?  What about temperature of the WVO?  Do you check it with an acurate thermometer?  If it's to hot it can boil off the methanol before the reaction takes place.  Too cold, and the reaction will take a long, long time.  All of these minor inacuracies can add up to big problems with your end result!

    Keep at it.  It will work once you learn the tricks!

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