BioDieselNow - Renewable biodiesel fuel

Hey DK,

I really liked your message.  I like to know who's doing what on the subject.  Also, I happen to believe that people who are putting money into these programs may very well know what they are doing.

Reality ,

Are you saying algae biodiesel is a pipe dream because the science of making oil from it is flawed or you just cant make fat profits doing it like petro oil, I know the oil companies will not do it unless they can get a fat return on their investment. But if the science is good and just the profit potential is the problem then its not a flawed dream.  Not everything in this world need be just about profit for it to come about.  If algae biodiesel can pay for itself it will happen, just not by the IPO/patent trolls and for profit types.

Reality:

Now some want to make you beleave that its because the price of oil has never been so high that no one has done it before. this is also a myth since to be able to make money one would have to invest extreme amounts of money to generate a very low return. Return now at best are established at .03 percent a year. anyone leaving money in his bank account would do better. 

I think recent developments in which algae oil is being sold at a very low price ($2 something per gallon) make arguements about  the feasability a moot point   unless of course the claims being made are bogus. but it seems that they are real enough

IF it is true it should suffice to put an end to the constant stream of cynical naysaying and indeed should encourage and inspire  others to follow suit.

marc

ecogenics3:

  I think recent developments in which algae oil is being sold at a very low price ($2 something per gallon) make arguements about  the feasability a moot point   unless of course the claims being made are bogus. but it seems that they are real enough

IF it is true it should suffice to put an end to the constant stream of cynical naysaying and indeed should encourage and inspire  others to follow suit. 

There is a sucker born every day...  $2/gal = 50% weight algae x 7lbs/gal = 14lbs of algae feedstock. $2/14lbs = ~$.15/lb for bone dry algal cake x 50% oil. Seeing as tho soy sells for $.27/lb and has only 20% oil, I think something smells like rotting algae.

By the way Marc, what ever happened to your 'big' photograph'ed study of how much weight you produce?

dont worry my friend youll see it  soon but im on my way to georgia tomorrow morning to build another pond and had to side track the filming because my high definition camera wouldnt accept the memory card but were ready to film the construction project in ga with a vcr as well as when we get back well shoot the lab shots of what i said we were going to do on the var also  patty figures out what was wrong with the high definition digicam if shes right well be able to by pass going from vcr format to dvd then well burn a dvd of both the lab work as well as the construction process of this new pond

now it seems that BDN has cut out the photo section so i guess youll have to wait till we get it on Utube or on mainstream television.

 as to the oil perhaps you are right seeing as you are the paragon of negativity. but then again perhaps you are wrong... maybe just maybe they are for real..im sure well all soon know one way or the other.

 besides how do you know what or how they did thier process ?ever think that there are people out there who just might have accomplished this??  if so itll turn your poo-pooing into poo poo. lololol.

 marc

Marc,

I think the report may be bogus.  I remember it as Algaelink selling algae oil at $2.41 per gallon.

I just got an email from Algaelink saying they do not sell algae oil. 

If indeed they are bogus I just cant imagine why anyone would be as stupid as to  destroy thier reputation in such a  public way.

 the learning curve by people interested in this field is expanding exponentially evry day how could anyone  be so foolish as to underestimate the intelligence of those  doing due dillegence in this field  .

 im sure that there will be a sorting out of those scamsters very soon  what gets me is what did these people hope to gain>

 lincoln once said.. "you can fool some of the people some of the time but you cant fool all of the people all of the time" in this information age transparency is prevalent like never before in the history of commerce.It just boggles my minf to think that they would try this and what makes me hesitate to condemn them entirely is that one of my clients just reported to me that he managed to extract 47% oil from one of the algae we provided them. so if they could do it one has to think that anyone can if they have the proper equipment. which these guys did.

 Marc

Someone had better tell Mexico that algae is a fantasy, they just invested $millions in a project that should yield 1 billion gallons of bio ethanol per year, about 5-10% of their fuel needs from algae.  

John,

Algae is not a fantasy.  It is real.

I was saying that the report that Algaelink was selling oil for $2.41 per gallon was bogus.

John Ashman:

Someone had better tell Mexico that algae is a fantasy, they just invested $millions in a project that should yield 1 billion gallons of bio ethanol per year, about 5-10% of their fuel needs from algae.