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Black Soldier Fly Larvae - Nobody mentioned this??

Last post 07-07-2008 10:24 AM by froggy. 34 replies.
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  • 05-08-2006 12:24 PM In reply to

    Re: Black Soldier Fly Larvae - Nobody mentioned this??

    no reason to buy them once you sre breeding them in your waste stream.. Marc Orion Cardoso
    Marc Orion Cardoso
    www.ecogenicsresearchcenter.org
  • 05-09-2006 01:58 PM In reply to

    • nolsson
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    Re: Black Soldier Fly Larvae - Nobody mentioned this??

    It might not be economical to make biodiesel out of them, but would it work to burn the larvae (either dried or fresh and squirmy?) in your home furnace like people burn corn?
  • 05-10-2006 02:17 AM In reply to

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    Hmm I wonder what that would smell like... gross but I suppose they would burn. But then if you're doing that it would make more sense to burn the waste that they were eating in the first place, less efficiency loss there actually. The key is drying it and burning it cleanly. Biomass is biomass!
    "And Lord, we are especially thankful for nuclear power, the cleanest, safest energy source there is. Except for solar, which is just a pipe dream." Homer Simpson, 1990
  • 05-10-2006 09:29 PM In reply to

    • Dover
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    Re: Black Soldier Fly Larvae - Nobody mentioned this??

    burning protien is wasteful (fixed nitrogen, livestock feed) and smelly and an NOx problem. The bound Nitrogen in coal is the principal source of NOx. I assume the same would be true for biomass.
    BD BD
  • 05-11-2006 03:28 PM In reply to

    • nolsson
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    Re: Black Soldier Fly Larvae - Nobody mentioned this??

    Why not just burn the biomass? Good idea. As for nigh NOx, why not run the exhaust from the furnace through an air pump and bubble it through your backyard algae pond (see Ecogenics to buy a kit) and continue to re-cycle the gas over and over through the algae until the NOx and CO2 were reduced to a fraction of their former selves? Surely the cost of running an air compressor to do this wouldn't be that must of an expense? Then you harvest your own biomass to re-burn later. I don't understand why GreenFuel Technologies doesn't re-cycle the flue gas in its photobioreactors in this way. Of course, I don't understand a lot, as evidenced by my questions here.
  • 04-18-2008 08:51 PM In reply to

    • G.W.
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    Re: Black Soldier Fly Larvae - Nobody mentioned this??

    Hi all. I found your forum while researching Black Soldier Flies. I've been working with them for a little over a year and I thought some of you might be interested in my experiences. To be honest I'm setting myself up to be a reseller of a unit designed to use BSF to process household waste. I doubt I'll earn a living doing this and it's something I would do regardless of any profit. If anyone has spefic questions about BSF I'll be happy to give the best answer I can. I have a lengthy thread describing my discovery and experiences with the flies/maggots and I can post a link if it's not against forum rules.


     

     

  • 04-22-2008 10:13 PM In reply to

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    G.W.:
    I can post a link if it's not against forum rules. 
    Please do.

     

    Those that live by the sword, die by the sword. Id rather die of cholesterol from all the butter Im making and selling...

    froggy in Wisconsin

  • 04-24-2008 02:45 AM In reply to

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    I need information about BSF, please send me a message or post here the link. Best regards.

  • 04-30-2008 06:29 PM In reply to

    Re: Black Soldier Fly Larvae - Nobody mentioned this??

     Hi ya'll,

    I learned of Black Soldier Fly from GW's posts on www.PondBoss.com forum. Have started a blog at www.bsflcomposting.com ...Forum won't let me post a link yet.

    GW's forum thread link is posted on my blog.  BSFL is fascinating. I received some today from PhoenixWorm.com and they went right to work eating my scrap pile.

    Am going to use the BSFL in reducing sewer plant classified organic solids. Will leave the biodiesel to you folks!

    Charlie Little 

     

     

     

  • 05-10-2008 11:15 AM In reply to

    • G.W.
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    Re: Black Soldier Fly Larvae - Nobody mentioned this??

    Okay then, here's my thread:  http://www.pondboss.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=87501#Post87501  

    edit: I added a link to my Black Soldier Fly thread in my signature. I want to be sensitive to your forum, especially because I've decided to become a BioPod dealer, so please let me know if my presence here starts to seem too spammy. I began my experiments with BSF before any commercial unit was available, and I would be doing the same thing even if these products weren't being developed.

    GW. 

     

  • 05-13-2008 05:15 AM In reply to

    Re: Black Soldier Fly Larvae - Nobody mentioned this??

    Hi all. So is biodiesel from this source a no go due to the high FFA levels? Or are there cost effective and safe ways around making diesel from high FFA oils/fats?

    Cheers in advance

  • 05-18-2008 04:08 PM In reply to

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     I just found a site that sells soldier fly larvae as food for reptiles and for bait under the name Soldier Grubs.  Http://www.wormman.com.  This is one odd business!!

  • 07-05-2008 06:01 AM In reply to

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    HI ! Im a student of Nong Lam University in Viet Nam country, Now Im finding about Black soldier fly. Can you send to me " Cycle of Black Soldier fly"?. Thank you very much.
  • 07-07-2008 06:59 AM In reply to

    • G.W.
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    Re: Black Soldier Fly Larvae - Nobody mentioned this??

     Hello CuongPro. I might be able to refer you to the black soldier fly information you want. Are you looking for general information or a specifec document?

  • 07-07-2008 10:24 AM In reply to

    Re: Black Soldier Fly Larvae - Nobody mentioned this??

    Not to rain on the parade here, I think there is alot of promise in BSF. 

    ecogenics3:
      as garbage decomposes. it puts out heat, up to 149 F 
       I would be curious about the efficiency of the whole energy concept.

    I am also dubious of letting biomass rot near wet areas. CH4 is ~ 40x more pollution than CO2. Thus, even a 2.5% shift of the fixed carbon into CH4 is worse than dry digestion (or burning = ~100% CO2). I doubt there is but is there is any mass balance or LCA of the BSF systems?

     

     

    Those that live by the sword, die by the sword. Id rather die of cholesterol from all the butter Im making and selling...

    froggy in Wisconsin

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