I have been trying to study up on amberlite BD10Dry, does anyone have any ideas on it? I would like to hear from someone that has it working in their processor or someone that is alots smarter than myself, (it wouldnt take much). If amberlite is a good product how and what would i need to do to change a water wash system over to it. The guys i help with the biodiesel production has a 40 gallon processor and are looking at the possibilty of building a much larger plant if we can get away from water wash and make it worth the money. Thanks, Nathaniel frederickfam@yahoo.com 1997 Dodge cummins

Sounds like a typical ion exchange resin. I imagine someone around here has experience with these. Kumar Plocher Yokayo Biofuels .........../ \..................... fueling / R \ evolution ........./____\.................. My "Fueled for Thought" biodiesel blog is at http://www.livejournal.com/~ybiofuels Biodiesel... [img]http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8869/itsgreatstuff2tf.png[/img]

We have some that we've tested. We came to the conclusion that it was probably good stuff for a large plant, not a good fit for an individual processor. It does work. To get the most out of it, you have to do some 'rejuvination' processes to it, and it's a lot of work on a small scale. Galen Bowen Mechanical Engineer AGR, LLC

From what I hear its is at least suitable as several unnamed commercial scale biodiesel processors makers use of it.

By small scale, I meant an individual homebrewer, not a small plant. I agree with you (Fenris) completely that it is 'at least suitable'. It's a heck of a lot easier to remove from the fuel than magnesol. Galen Bowen Mechanical Engineer AGR, LLC

By the way, we have a 500 lb crate of it sitting here unopened. If anybody's interested, send me a message. Galen Bowen Mechanical Engineer AGR, LLC

Email me with a price for the 500lbs at frederickfam@yahoo.com Attention Nathaniel, thanks

500 lbs of Magnesol , or Amberlite . If it's Amberlite , I want a price also . If it's Magnesol I will throw in a hundered or so pounds for the cost of shipping .

I was wanting the price of the amberlite....but i havent received an email yet. Dodge man do you have any good info on amberlite?

Sorry guys - I didn't revisit this posting and see your inquiries. I've already agreed to sell it to somebody. If it falls through, I'll post it here. By the way[:o)]it's not 500 lbs. I look at the crate and noticed that it said 500 poid. Then I hefted the crate and it was obviously nowhere near 500 lbs. Turns out it is 88.9 lbs. Galen Bowen Mechanical Engineer AGR, LLC

Ok thanks, let us know if the deal falls through and we might wanta try it out, thanks again

I'm not sure if it is good or not at this point . I did finally today recieve a small sample of it from Rohm & Haas , but have not yet done anything but read the MSDS sheet . I will probably try to test it in the next week or so . I did talk to several of thier reps about it and the information they have on it does seem promising . But it is likely not going to be a product that most homebrewers will want to use . The system needed to use it is simple , but large and expensive to build . Even on a homebrew scale you would need to have at least one , preferably two columns about 7-8 feet tall to use it according to thier recommendations . There is a procedure for testing it on a small 100ml sample that involves simply stirring it in the fuel for one hour , but this would be likely to cause shearing of the particles on larger system . You would likely have problems with particle size if you were trying to keep a batch of much size mixed for an hour . It also seems abrasive and would likely cause pump problems that would prevent simply circulating to keep it mixed . I am sure someone will try it on a small scale report the results though .

I can provide Rohm Haas Amberlite BD10Dry @ 12.00 a kilo  plus shipping.

 

Contact jbeasley23@mac.com 

Hey Source,

          How much amberlite do you have available? Where do I need to calculate my shipping from?

Hello J. Beasley;

what will be the price for a shipment of 10 kg to Portugal??

I have a  way to Assembly column parts in a way that it's gonna work for sure.

Send me an email to: mikasribas@sapo.pt

Source,

I'm trying to do some research with the amberlite. I have heard you can mix it with the fuel or just run the fuel through some sort of filter containing the amberlite. Have you tried either way? If you have what was your experience with it? Please reply as I'm trying to obtain some to use on my homebrew.

No way..... That stuff is really bad... it clloged my column after something more than a few litres. No way I gonna used to upgrade my plant.

I will go for magnesol now for sure, nothing like having a powder getting in the BD and taking all that bad stuff out, amberlite columns just retain the contamination and get clloged very easly, and believe me.... replacement is much more expensive, compared with using magnesol.

 

 

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No way..... That stuff is really bad... it clloged my column after something more than a few litres. No way I gonna used to upgrade my plant.

I will go for magnesol now for sure, nothing like having a powder getting in the BD and taking all that bad stuff out, amberlite columns just retain the contamination and get clloged very easly, and believe me.... replacement is much more expensive, compared with using magnesol.

What a funny coincidence that a fellow named Biolewis is spewing the same garbage testimonies - almost exactly the same - over at Infopop; note that his "testimony" has raised a great deal of suspicion there. I'm wondering whether this is plagiarizing or the same person.

Regardless, if you're having problems with the column clogging after a few liters, your process sucks. Improve your reaction-completion or find a more thorough way to separate your glycerin. Much smarter (and cheaper) than throwing sub-micron, abrasive dust into your fuel.

Magnesol is excellent if you want to: 1) dispose of spent cleaning product after every batch, 2) have particulate in your fuel, and 3) frequently buy, change, and dispose expensive filters.

Being that I'm going for an ecologically friendly process, I'd rather have a product that can be continually regenerated (disposal every few years) and is easily filtered (with a permanant filter, not a disposable one) like an ion exchange resin (any brand). 

it cost 18.00 per kilo from rhom haas in 40 kilo drums which is 88 lbs plus freight.

Denver Biodiesel is selling it in smaller batches: 8 lbs for $84.99 + freight:

http://stores.ebay.com/LosOjos-Upscale-Resale